Recently, I see a lot of venom and hatred being pouted against the Indian American community in message boards in response to articles written on the success of the Indian American community, especially at Rediff. It is mostly related to Indian immigrants and their wonderful success (both absolute and vis-a-vis other immigrant groups) in the US in business and high technology industries. The following are the usual rants:
1. “You are trying to portray as if the Indian American community has started business in the US and that they are the most successful business group in the US.”
Here, you set up a strawman, that the IA community has started business in the US and that they are the most successful business group in the US, and then rant and rant against it. However, no one, neither the IA community nor the articles, portrays as if the IA community has started business in the US. No one is claiming that they are the most successful business group in the US. They are only pointing out and celebrating the success of the IA community in absolute terms and vis-a-vis other immigrant groups, a fact that is not an invention but something that is proved by various surveys in the US and in the UK. I dont see anything wrong with it. It should serve as an inspiration and a wake up call to their brothers and sisters back in India instead of a punching bag, an object of mostly negative criticism and a target to vent out frustration.
2. “No big deal. Indians are simply going there as low cost coolies to do hardwork for American companies and institutions.”
Mostly, you find this coming from people who have a Leftist bent of mind. It is very surprising and sad to see that a Leftist, who is usually a champion of labour rights and dignity of labour, is the one who refers to Indian immigrants as low cost coolies. This is very unfortunate. This also has racist connotations. Pure hardwork is being mistaken for low cost coolie work. Only those who have done the supposedly low cost coolie work understand what it means to be successful in the highly competitive environment in the US.
It is surprising to note that those who make offensive, offhand comments against successful and hardworking people like Indra Nooyi themselves are not as successful and are involved in relatively poorly paying jobs in call centres or IT companies in India. Perhaps, these people are simply jealous of the success of other people. That these successful people have worked extremely hard to get there and the fact that they all come from hardworking middle class families who cannot boast of great wealth and prestige doesnt seem to have any effect on the idiots who make comments.
Perhaps, by making such comments, they are simply venting out the frustration they have accumulated on account of the failures in their own lives. They cant stand the fact that an Indian, like you and me, can be as successful as any other businessman in the world. They probably relate their own position with that of these successful people and develop a sense of insecurity. That insecurity leads to lack of self respect and this lack of self respect translates into offensive and prejudiced comments against other successful people. Maybe these people should start looking at and examining their own capabilites and successes before making sweeping judgements on the capabilities and successes of other people. It reflects poorly on their intellect and personal integrity.
The success of Indian immigrants has shown that Indians are a smart and hardworking lot. Given the opportunity, they really excel. Their adaptability, intelligence, emphasis on the value of education, “thriftyness”, hardwork, entrepreneurial spirit, tolerance for other religions and societies and their secularism gives them an edge as compared to other immigrant groups. This fact cannot be disputed. It is proved by various govt. sponsored surveys in the US and in the UK.
Unfortunately, the tremendous potential of the Indian people has not been harnessed in their home country! It has been ruthlessly suppressed by a Nehruvian-Stalinist economic model. The Leftist shitheads who accuse Indians of abandoning their home country and working in a capitalist society like the US are themselves to blame for it. It is only because of the economic policies they espouse that hundreds of thousands of highly-skilled Indians have left their homeland to a country which is far more accepting of their abilities. It is a nation which promises unbridled freedom, both social and economic. Instead of ranting endlessly against the US and its perceived “imperialist policies”, Indians should accept and digest the hard fact that at present, the US has been far more successful in guaranteeing freedom to the individual, both social and economic. It is the lack of opportunities in India and abundance of the same in the US that has led Indian Americans to move to the US.
Of course, the scenario is changing. More and more Indians are returning to India as Indians have realized that earning money is not a bad thing and that “profit is a dirty word” is hypocrisy. But economic reforms are still at a nascent stage and they are vehemently opposed by a section of people who claim to be champions of such high ideals as “freedom”, “tolerance” and “secularism” and who, yet are the most intolerant lot when it comes to economic freedom. It is time Indians reflect on and learn from the experience and success of the Indian American community instead of endlessly ranting against the same. They should stop being hypocrites.

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March 27, 2007 at 8:46 am
Will
I was shocked to see so much hatred and belittling of Indra’s rise of CEO in teh rediff forum. And even more horrific is the fact that many of these guys in teh forum seem to be educated, working and had good writing skills. Yet, their brains are dumb, and full of shit. Cant seem to make out a simple thot that rediff might have given her the award as an inspiration to other ppl(esp the oppressed women) both back home and new immigrants. Is that too hard to guess!!!! And one girl repeatedly says “non-citizen, selling poison”. shit for brains !!! I wonder if education back home is churning out such idiots in record numbers as we proudly portray here, isnt the country going down in every sense? I believe almost every industry 99% of them, have by products that are harmful to humans in at least some minute way. Hey dickheads, grow up.
March 27, 2007 at 11:06 pm
Praveen Damodhar
Ah, It cleary depicts the perfect Indian hproctitical society.I feel theLeft-based views on the matter are too idealistic .All the hard work and determined efforts to make it big in life ,that too in a foriegn land,are being absurdly equated to Low cost coolie work,which I would say,is just ridiculous..
As you pointed out, Its just that these people are cynical,feel insecure by others success,and hence come out with such sad comments ! Its time they introspect their own pathetic standards before pin point someone else…
April 4, 2007 at 12:52 am
tanvi
I totally agree with u re…wen someonez sucessful why not just praise the person get a lil inspired if u wish and move on but no crazy pple cant do a thing but complian…as they say wen u look for dirt u r bound to find it and someleftists fit the bill perfectly..well written post..hope u do well in civils u really think india dude..keep it up!
April 9, 2007 at 3:21 pm
kela
AT – India and Africa did belong to the same land mass once. It was called Gondwanaland. However, Gondwanaland broke up into several landmasses (Australia, Madagascar, Africa, South America, Arabia, India, Antarctica) during the Jurassic (Mesozoic Epoch, 225 – 60 million years ago.) -
References:
1. NCERT Class XI Textbook “Physical Geography.”
2. Physical Geography by Savindra Singh, Prayag Pustak Bhavan, 2001.
BUT anatomically modern humans did not appear until just 130,000 years ago in Africa.
Kela : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans
says -There are two prominent scientific theories of the origins of contemporary humans. They concern the relationship between modern humans and other hominids. The single-origin, or “out-of-Africa”, hypothesis proposes that modern humans evolved in Africa and later migrated outwards to replace hominids in other parts of the world. The multiregional hypothesis, on the other hand, proposes that modern humans evolved, at least in part, from independent hominid populations.
Going by the second theory it is very much possible that dravidians/adivasis evolved in India itself and didn’t migrate from Africa.
AT:He did. So what?! How does that change anything or how does that substantiate your argument? Do you believe in everything that Hitler stated? For example, Hitler stated that Jews are outsiders and need to be eliminated. Do you believe that?
kela :irrelevant gibberish.I was not the one walking around with a swastika.
AT: No they dont. I wonder if most of them even know or care about the Aryan theory.
Kela: you’re kidding right ?
man i wasted my time looking up wiki just to reply to your lame ass post.Please learn to read before you decide to post in future
April 9, 2007 at 8:37 pm
atlantean
The multiregional hypothesis, on the other hand, proposes that modern humans evolved, at least in part, from independent hominid populations.
Going by the second theory it is very much possible that dravidians/adivasis evolved in India itself and didn’t migrate from Africa.
Absolutely false!!! LOL! I wonder if you even read what you yourself quote! Go back to that Wikipedia article and read again. This is how it reads:
The multiregional hypothesis for the human species holds that the evolution of humanity throughout the Pleistocene has been within a single widespread human species, Homo sapiens, in response to the normal forces of evolution: selection, mutation, genetic drift, and gene flow.
The Multiregional Hypothesis has its origin in the work of Franz Weidenreich in the 1930s. At that time, Weidenreich originated the “Weidenreich Theory of Human Evolution” based on his examination of Peking Man. Weidenreich was an anatomist and observed numerous anatomical characteristics that Peking Man had in common with modern Asians. The Weidenreich Theory stated that human races have evolved independently in the Old World from Homo erectus to Homo sapiens sapiens, while at the same time there was gene flow between the various populations. According to the theory proposed by Weidenreich, genes that were generally adaptive (such as those for intelligence) flowed relatively rapidly from one part of the world to the other, while those that were locally adaptive, would not. This is the direct opposite to theories of human evolution that have been popularized in the press with one superior race (e.g. Modern Humans) displacing other races (e.g. Neanderthals). A vocal proponent of the Weidenreich theory was Carleton Coon.
Eventually, Milford H. Wolpoff proposed an explanation based on clinal variation that would allow for the necessary balance. This was the multiregional hypothesis. It theorizes that Homo erectus, Neanderthals, Homo sapiens and other humans were a single species. This species arose in Africa two million years ago as Homo erectus and then spread out over the world, developing adaptations to regional conditions.
Which substantiates my argument that the earliest anatomical humans arose in Africa around 2 million years ago (130,000 years is what I stated.)
For periods of time some populations became isolated, developing in a different direction. But through a complicated process involving continuous interbreeding, replacement, genetic drift and other vehicles of evolution, adaptations that were an advantage anywhere on earth would spread, keeping the development of the species in the same overall direction, while maintaining adaptations to regional factors.
And as it has been mentioned above that whatever their regional variation, their ancestors were the same – and they originated 2 million years back in Africa.
Kela: you’re kidding right ?
No I’m not. You do a survey among all upper caste people and come back and tell me how many people are aware of the Aryan concept – or – take me any such survey. If you want, I’ll help you do it. It’s a standing invitation.
man i wasted my time looking up wiki just to reply to your lame ass post. Please learn to read before you decide to post in future
Again! Those words apply to you and not me!
I think it’s time if you start searching for some selfrespect within yourself. You’d been beaten again and again with evidence and reason and yet, like a sore loser, you continue to spout your nonsense. Get a life!
April 9, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Chandra
Excellent retort …Atlantean….:-)
cheers
April 9, 2007 at 9:59 pm
smallsquirrel
standing
applauding
((grinning))
April 10, 2007 at 12:59 pm
atlantean
Chandra and Smallsquirrel,
Thanks
April 10, 2007 at 7:15 pm
kela
AT-I am not chicken shit,Aaman banned my IP,thats why i’m not posting on DC
- 1)agreed they all came from Africa,but who populated the indian land mass first ?are you saying that the fair skinned north indians(causcasians) were the first to populate india and the negro south indians arrived later on boats from Africa?So the negro south-indians are actually the invaders ? .How do you explain the existence of adivasis and dark skinned tribals in states like Tripura,Orissa?
2)the vedas and other hindu texts don’t talk about the Harrapan civilization and earlier periods ,and they refer to a river saraswati that doesn’t exist.
3)a survey would be a great idea.An easier thing would be if that Jewish woman asked those swastika brandishers .But she would have to do it with tact and not intimidate them considering her white skin and all.
Look personally i don’t give a shit but when idiots say things like christians don’t belong in
India then I won’t sit back.As regards that other jewish person,that thing about the Talmud was
not my interpretation,it was something i found on the web,but it proves one thing – people who
live in glass-houses don’t throw stones on others
April 10, 2007 at 7:18 pm
kela
As regards this topic on here.the reason why Indians are hated is because they are seen as greedy opportunistic people who don’t give back to society and I couldn’t agree more .Just look at the society we live in.
April 10, 2007 at 7:32 pm
kela
read this
“Current research establishes that human beings are highly genetically homogenous, meaning that the DNA of individual Homo sapiens is more alike than usual for most species, a result of their relatively recent evolution, or maybe because the Toba catastrophe theory. Distinctive genetic characteristics have arisen, however, primarily as the result of small groups of people moving into new environmental circumstances. Such small groups are initially highly inbred, allowing the relatively rapid transmission of traits favorable to the new environment. These adapted traits are a very small component of the Homo sapiens genome and include such outward “racial” characteristics as skin color and nose form in addition to internal characteristics such as the ability to breathe more efficiently in high altitudes.”
how do you explain then that south indians and north indians evolved in India at the same time.Dna anlaysis has shown that upper caste hindus have dna similar to europeans.
April 10, 2007 at 7:38 pm
Chandra
hey Kela
You can post at DC now. No more offensive stuff from me. Promise …see u soon….
rgds
April 10, 2007 at 11:30 pm
kela
thanks for your message Chandra
April 12, 2007 at 2:14 am
Gori
I’m just curious how many more Kela’s are there in India. Man we have a big job ahead getting them educated.